Below is the transcript from ABAchat on Wednesday February 13, 2013 on Transition Planning. This session was hosted by Tricia Lee Keller (aka @behaviouratplay on Twitter). Please feel free to add comments in regards to this chat in the comments section below. If you’d rather download the Excel format of this chat click the link below.
2013_02_13 Transition Planning (Excel)
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behaviouratplay | What is #ABAchat? http://t.co/83hjcQQi And the scheudle? That’s right here: http://t.co/Iztc5Yx5 |
behaviorbabe | #ABAChat starts on #Twitter in 8 min! Join the discussion on #transition planning. What role can #behavioranalysis play? |
behaviouratplay | Family-Centred transition process for youths with #autism spectrum disorder. http://t.co/vyRv1hSJ #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | I’ll be participating in #ABAchat for the next hour or so. Please join in on the discussion. http://t.co/52uHBNL5 |
behaviouratplay | Welcome to tonight’s #ABAchat. Please introduce self and role with #ABA. I’m Tricia, work as consultant in a school board. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | Housekeeping: questions will be presented in Q1, Q2, Q3 etc. format; please reply with corresponding A1, A2 etc. and hashtag! #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | Discussion is generally informal. We welcome participants to ask other questions, reply to colleagues, keep conversation going. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | Tonight we’re focused on transition planning; specifically supporting youth with DD and their transition into adulthood. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | Related articles were posted earlier and can be found under the hashtag: #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | I must say, does not seem to be a lot of #behavioranalysis specific research on transition planning. #ABAchat |
srmccoy | @behaviouratplay Some colleagues and I have toyed with the idea. Though for now we are just working on improving the tools we have. #ABAChat |
behaviouratplay | .@srmccoy That’s a good lead-in into discussion. Q1: What tools are (you) we relying on for transition planning? #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | A1: Recent focus on person-centred planning, involving students in the development of their IEP goals. Increases self-determination #ABAchat |
BarefootBehvior | @behaviouratplay I agree, so much work on early intervention and transition into school, but more needed in post-school life. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | @BarefootBehvior What has your experience been so far with transition planning, interventions to set-up successful transition? #ABAchat |
srmccoy | A1: Working on developing better tools to identify barriers to transition for adults in Intensive Behavioral facilities. #ABAchat |
BarefootBehvior | @behaviouratplay tbh, most of my experience has been elementary level, just now getting into secondary ed world, learning as I go. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | @srmccoy I think we can all share anecdotal observations of what barriers a student might have. Be nice if we had a checklist. #ABAchat |
srmccoy | A1: Many facilities minimize transition planning or only look at rate of problem behavior as criteria. Looking to improve that. #ABAChat |
behaviouratplay | Q2: What are some common barriers presented to students with DD transitioning out of high-school? #ABAchat |
srmccoy | @behaviouratplay That is exactly the tool we are developing/testing in our area, custom tailored to each person. #ABAChat |
behaviouratplay | A2: Need to look at pivotal skills of adulthood. What skills does our student need? #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | @srmccoy Sounds exciting. Feel like I’m still grasping at straws for goals. Long-term planning, vision not always happening (cont.) #ABAchat |
BarefootBehvior | A2: need to focus more on what student can do or can learn to do, instead of what he can’t do. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | @srmccoy (cont’d) mainly because we’re dealing in the short-term with challenging behaviours. #ABAchat |
srmccoy | @behaviouratplay Also need to look at what environments they are moving into and what is necessary there. #ABAChat |
behaviouratplay | A2: And while it’s difficult to operationally define, measure quality of life, barriers to achieving QoL must be addressed. #ABAchat |
Behaviorhal | A2: We need to teach skills that are socially valid… e.g. ADLs, job prep — not Candyland #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | A2: Though, I suspect QoL alligns itself well with breaking down barriers. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | Q3: What are some of those pivotal skills? What goals might we target in a transition plan? What’s important to teach? #ABAchat |
srmccoy | A3: Goals need to be tailored to the person, their abilities and what they will need in their new setting. #ABAChat |
BarefootBehvior | A2: Sometimes difficult finding natural environments beyond classroom to teach essential skills, programming for generality #ABAchat |
srmccoy | A3: I find students coming into ADT/work settings lacking basic skills such as writing name, personal care, etc. #ABAChat |
zachikkanda | A2:Lack of appropriate/functional vocational training & too much focus on academic training in H.S. not enough on adaptive behavior #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | A3: Big, ever-learning goals I always come back to: functional communication skills, self-regulation skills, independent leisure #ABAchat |
srmccoy | @zachikkanda This, very much this! #ABAChat |
behaviouratplay | @srmccoy We’ll often work on establishing personal-ID program. Name, address, phone number, parent’s name(s). #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | Q4: Have you participating in person-centred planning sessions? How has that gone? What outcomes came of it? #ABAchat |
zachikkanda | @BarefootBehvior Totally agree. I’m always looking for activities outside the classroom for my learners. Community often resistant. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | @zachikkanda @barefootbehvior At times we do some outreach, mini PD session on needs of our classes to be out in their community. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | @zachikkanda Many times I’ve handed out business cards in the moment, invite our neighbours to learn more about what we’re doing. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | A4: participated in a couple person-centred planning sessions. Saw family shift focus on academics to “I want my son to be happy”. #ABAchat |
zachikkanda | A3:Programming that addresses service coordination (e.g., addressing employer concerns) as well as promoting family involvement. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | A4: Some of the outcomes identified was a need to continuously expand student’s communication; give him skills to “talk” …. #ABAchat |
BarefootBehvior | @behaviouratplay Good idea. Inform, reduce stigma, invite collaboration and assistance. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | A4: (cont’d), from there we broke down skill into its individual parts and each took a role in teaching a skill. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | Transition to adulthood for learners with #ASD with @PeterGerhardt1: http://t.co/154f62ow #ABAchat |
zachikkanda | Has anyone had any success with locating volunteer opportunities for adolescent learners? #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | @zachikkanda start in the school – work in the library, office. Have a great Work Experience prgm that sets up plcmnts in community #ABAchat |
behaviorbabe | #ABAChat – The Infamous “Dracut Case” -shaping laws in #MA & other states re: #transitions #transitionplanning http://t.co/7zPgtfd6 |
behaviorbabe | RT @behaviouratplay: Transition to adulthood for learners with #ASD with @PeterGerhardt1: http://t.co/154f62ow #ABAchat |
zachikkanda | Links to a couple abstracts for Gerhardt articles re: transitioning http://t.co/mxD8CHDY http://t.co/TV5Lasto #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | Think we need to get the behaviour skills training model out there: job coaches and potential employers doing it #behavioranalysis #ABAchat |
behaviorbabe | @zachikkanda I had a student obsessed w/letters, so we took his hyperfocus on this & taught him to file. He got a paid job at MIT #ABAChat |
zachikkanda | @behaviorbabe That’s amazing! Love to hear outcomes like that. #ABAchat |
zachikkanda | @behaviouratplay You’re onto something. #ABAchat |
behaviorbabe | Familiarize yourself with the law #neverhurts #oftenhelps #ABAChat #behavioranalysis #FCSN #transition planning http://t.co/mLOLOrYx |
behaviouratplay | Q5: What role does #ABA have in transition planning. How can our practices be used? #ABAchat |
BarefootBehvior | @behaviorbabe Great example of building on what student CAN do, shaping into an employability skill! #ABAchat |
behaviorbabe | A5: Social validity #transition #planforfuture …this is a socially significant area where change is needed #behavioranalysis #ABAChat |
behaviorbabe | A5: Focus on student strengths, help program for sR+ likely to be found in natural environment, measure change #ABAChat #pivotalbehaviors |
zachikkanda | So grateful that this discussion is going on! Such an important issue. You are all awesome. Unfortunately, have to bid adieu. #Work #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | A5: Task analysis and chaining of specific work skills; use of BST model for soft skills needed on the job, post-secondary #ABAchat |
behaviorbabe | @behaviorbabe @behaviouratplay – what are the laws surrounding #transition planning in #Canada? #behavior #ABAChat |
NataliJewel | @zachikkanda Contact local colleges, churches, synagogues, & organizations. Start w/ a small task with built in reinforcement. #ABAChat |
behaviorbabe | Sorry I could only stop in for a few –down to the wire w/final dissertation revisions #behavioranalysis #funNEVERstops #ABAChat Good night! |
behaviouratplay | A5: Interesting caveat on person-centered planning. Still a need for stimulus preference Ax in environment person transitioning to #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | Q6: Work placements: what are people’s thoughts on paychecks, earning a livable wage? Do you advocate for $$ being paid out? #ABAchat |
jimmyJJbond | Join the convo! RT @behaviouratplay: Q5: What role does #ABA have in transition planning. How can our practices be used? #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | Thanks for joining in @zachikkanda and @behaviorbabe. Agreed – an important discussion. Small changes now… #ABAchat |
jimmyJJbond | @behaviouratplay I’m curious, what would be the alternative? #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | A5: My thought is that the job experience should be authentic. Person is contributing to organization’s success; therefore $ earned #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | @jimmyJJbond I worry some placements may be “charity case” and “make work project” therefore no wage to be offered. #ABAchat |
jimmyJJbond | @behaviouratplay I absolutely agree! Otherwise, in my opinion, it’s basically free labor. We don’t want to go down that road. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | @jimmyJJbond But since the goal might be to have place to gain experience, maybe take it w/o expectation to get paid. #ABAchat |
BarefootBehvior | A6: If worker not compensated for work done then they’re being taken advantage of, and shame on us for not advocating! #ABAchat |
jimmyJJbond | @behaviouratplay ah, I see your point. I didn’t think about that aspect #ABAchat |
BarefootBehvior | A6: although I’ve seen programs where student gets school credits for learning work skills on site, internship of sorts. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | @BarefootBehvior Agreed. Much more work on our part to make these opportunities available with compensation built in. #ABAchat |
jimmyJJbond | @BarefootBehvior I’m with you on that. My thoughts exactly. I think that opens the door to an entirely different set of problems #ABAchat |
NataliJewel | @behaviouratplay I agree! Client should be paid for their work like anyone else. Do you have client and employer sign a contract? #ABAChat |
BarefootBehvior | A6: student then has potential for long term hire in which monetary compensation is given. #ABAchat |
jimmyJJbond | @behaviouratplay maybe it doesn’t have to be money, but some form of payment should be given. School credit, or something maybe. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | @NataliJewel Hope we get to that point. Not sure what our Work Experience placements arrange since its education-system based. #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | Okay #behaviouranalysis tweeps! I’ve been on Twitter all evening. Time for a rest. Thanks for the chat this evening! #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | If you’re just joining the discussion, please feel free to weigh in a response with hashtag #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | Our next #ABAchat is on Monday. @JHyfler is hosting a discussion on use of praise – what does the research say? #ABAchat |
BarefootBehvior | @NataliJewel Our transition dept. has been using employer/employee contracts this year, establish all parameters before start. #ABAchat |
jimmyJJbond | RT @behaviouratplay: Our next #ABAchat is on Monday. @JHyfler is hosting a discussion on use of praise – what does the research say? #ABAchat |
behaviouratplay | Transition Planning Resource Guide for identified students in Ontario: http://t.co/8jPexAdR #ABAchat #Sped |
NataliJewel | @BarefootBehvior Exactly! That’s great! #ABAChat |
globalautism | Sorry we missed you at #ABAchat tonight. Had a Supervision Q&A call at the same time! #poorplanning #nexttime #greattopic Thank you! |
behaviorbabe | @globalautism You can contribute after the fact by replying to Q’s with your A’s and using (hashtag ABAChat) #ABAChat #behavioranalysis |
puzzlingalong | @zachikkanda @BarefootBehvior #abachat our community open to it! just takes a few contacts w/civic assoc, like-minded leaders/biz owners |
puzzlingalong | @zachikkanda @BarefootBehvior #abachat exactly our spec ed lead, pupil pers director attended civic assoc meeting & recd numerous ops |
puzzlingalong | @behaviouratplay #abachat maybe in high school years mostly internship/occ skills. then after transition and aging out, paid jobs?! |
puzzlingalong | @behaviouratplay #abachat A5 goals of increasing time on task, checking schedule, & completing tasks independently shaped with ABA |
puzzlingalong | @zachikkanda #abachat our #kpsd district started w/in house historical museum then went out to diner, hardware store in our town. |
puzzlingalong | @behaviouratplay A3 #abachat time on task w/o prompts, checking schedule, following schedule independently, completing work tasks indep |
puzzlingalong | @behaviouratplay @srmccoy A1 #abachat #jobcoach is key and opportunities in community for lifeskills students before they age out. |
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