ABAchat: Transition Planning


Below is the transcript from ABAchat on Wednesday February 13, 2013 on Transition Planning. This session was hosted by Tricia Lee Keller (aka @behaviouratplay on Twitter). Please feel free to add comments in regards to this chat in the comments section below. If you’d rather download the Excel format of this chat click the link below.

2013_02_13 Transition Planning (Excel)

From User Tweet
behaviouratplay What is #ABAchat?  http://t.co/83hjcQQi  And the scheudle?  That’s right here:  http://t.co/Iztc5Yx5
behaviorbabe #ABAChat starts on #Twitter in 8 min! Join the discussion on #transition   planning. What role can #behavioranalysis play?
behaviouratplay Family-Centred transition process for youths with #autism spectrum   disorder.  http://t.co/vyRv1hSJ  #ABAchat
behaviouratplay I’ll be participating in #ABAchat for the next hour or so.  Please join in on the discussion.   http://t.co/52uHBNL5
behaviouratplay Welcome to tonight’s #ABAchat. Please introduce self and role with #ABA.   I’m Tricia, work as consultant in a school board. #ABAchat
behaviouratplay Housekeeping: questions will be presented in Q1, Q2, Q3 etc. format;   please reply with corresponding A1, A2 etc. and hashtag! #ABAchat
behaviouratplay Discussion is generally informal. We welcome participants to ask other   questions, reply to colleagues, keep conversation going.  #ABAchat
behaviouratplay Tonight we’re focused on transition planning; specifically supporting   youth with DD and their transition into adulthood. #ABAchat
behaviouratplay Related articles were posted earlier and can be found under the   hashtag:  #ABAchat
behaviouratplay I must say, does not seem to be a lot of #behavioranalysis specific   research on transition planning.     #ABAchat
srmccoy @behaviouratplay Some colleagues and I have toyed with the idea. Though   for now we are just working on improving the tools we have. #ABAChat
behaviouratplay .@srmccoy That’s a good lead-in into discussion.  Q1: What tools are (you) we relying on for   transition planning? #ABAchat
behaviouratplay A1: Recent focus on person-centred planning, involving students in the   development of their IEP goals. Increases self-determination #ABAchat
BarefootBehvior @behaviouratplay I agree, so much work on early intervention and   transition into school, but more needed in post-school life. #ABAchat
behaviouratplay @BarefootBehvior What has your experience been so far with transition   planning, interventions to set-up successful transition? #ABAchat
srmccoy A1: Working on developing better tools to identify barriers to transition   for adults in Intensive Behavioral facilities. #ABAchat
BarefootBehvior @behaviouratplay tbh, most of my experience has been elementary level,   just now getting into secondary ed world, learning as I go. #ABAchat
behaviouratplay @srmccoy I think we can all share anecdotal observations of what barriers   a student might have. Be nice if we had a checklist. #ABAchat
srmccoy A1: Many facilities minimize transition planning or only look at rate of   problem behavior as criteria. Looking to improve that. #ABAChat
behaviouratplay Q2: What are some common barriers presented to students with DD   transitioning out of high-school?     #ABAchat
srmccoy @behaviouratplay That is exactly the tool we are developing/testing in   our area, custom tailored to each person. #ABAChat
behaviouratplay A2:  Need to look at pivotal skills   of adulthood.  What skills does our   student need?  #ABAchat
behaviouratplay @srmccoy Sounds exciting. Feel like I’m still grasping at straws for   goals. Long-term planning, vision not always happening (cont.) #ABAchat
BarefootBehvior A2: need to focus more on what student can do or can learn to do, instead   of what he can’t do. #ABAchat
behaviouratplay @srmccoy (cont’d) mainly because we’re dealing in the short-term with   challenging behaviours. #ABAchat
srmccoy @behaviouratplay Also need to look at what environments they are moving   into and what is necessary there. #ABAChat
behaviouratplay A2: And while it’s difficult to operationally define, measure quality of   life, barriers to achieving QoL must be addressed. #ABAchat
Behaviorhal A2: We need to teach skills that are socially valid… e.g. ADLs, job   prep — not Candyland #ABAchat
behaviouratplay A2: Though, I suspect QoL alligns itself well with breaking down   barriers. #ABAchat
behaviouratplay Q3: What are some of those pivotal skills?  What goals might we target in a transition   plan? What’s important to teach? #ABAchat
srmccoy A3: Goals need to be tailored to the person, their abilities and what   they will need in their new setting. #ABAChat
BarefootBehvior A2: Sometimes difficult finding natural environments beyond classroom to   teach essential skills, programming for generality #ABAchat
srmccoy A3: I find students coming into ADT/work settings lacking basic skills   such as writing name, personal care, etc. #ABAChat
zachikkanda A2:Lack of appropriate/functional vocational training & too much   focus on academic training in H.S. not enough on adaptive behavior #ABAchat
behaviouratplay A3: Big, ever-learning goals I always come back to: functional   communication skills, self-regulation skills, independent leisure  #ABAchat
srmccoy @zachikkanda This, very much this! #ABAChat
behaviouratplay @srmccoy We’ll often work on establishing personal-ID program.  Name, address, phone number, parent’s   name(s). #ABAchat
behaviouratplay Q4: Have you participating in person-centred planning sessions?  How has that gone?  What outcomes came of it? #ABAchat
zachikkanda @BarefootBehvior Totally agree. I’m always looking for activities outside   the classroom for my learners. Community often resistant. #ABAchat
behaviouratplay @zachikkanda @barefootbehvior At times we do some outreach, mini PD   session on needs of our classes to be out in their community.  #ABAchat
behaviouratplay @zachikkanda Many times I’ve handed out business cards in the moment,   invite our neighbours to learn more about what we’re doing.  #ABAchat
behaviouratplay A4: participated in a couple person-centred planning sessions. Saw family   shift focus on academics to “I want my son to be happy”. #ABAchat
zachikkanda A3:Programming that addresses service coordination (e.g., addressing   employer concerns) as well as promoting family involvement. #ABAchat
behaviouratplay A4: Some of the outcomes identified was a need to continuously expand   student’s communication; give him skills to “talk” …. #ABAchat
BarefootBehvior @behaviouratplay Good idea. Inform, reduce stigma, invite collaboration   and assistance. #ABAchat
behaviouratplay A4: (cont’d), from there we broke down skill into its individual parts   and each took a role in teaching a skill.    #ABAchat
behaviouratplay Transition to adulthood for learners with #ASD with @PeterGerhardt1:   http://t.co/154f62ow  #ABAchat
zachikkanda Has anyone had any success with locating volunteer opportunities for   adolescent learners? #ABAchat
behaviouratplay @zachikkanda start in the school – work in the library, office. Have a   great Work Experience prgm that sets up plcmnts in community #ABAchat
behaviorbabe #ABAChat – The Infamous “Dracut Case” -shaping laws in #MA   & other states re: #transitions #transitionplanning   http://t.co/7zPgtfd6
behaviorbabe RT @behaviouratplay: Transition to adulthood for learners with #ASD with   @PeterGerhardt1: http://t.co/154f62ow    #ABAchat
zachikkanda Links to a couple abstracts for   Gerhardt articles re: transitioning http://t.co/mxD8CHDY http://t.co/TV5Lasto #ABAchat
behaviouratplay Think we need to get the behaviour skills training model out there: job   coaches and potential employers doing it #behavioranalysis #ABAchat
behaviorbabe @zachikkanda I had a student obsessed w/letters, so we took his   hyperfocus on this & taught him to file.  He got a paid job at MIT #ABAChat
zachikkanda @behaviorbabe That’s amazing!  Love   to hear outcomes like that. #ABAchat
zachikkanda @behaviouratplay You’re onto something.    #ABAchat
behaviorbabe Familiarize yourself with the law #neverhurts #oftenhelps #ABAChat   #behavioranalysis #FCSN #transition planning http://t.co/mLOLOrYx
behaviouratplay Q5: What role does #ABA have in transition planning. How can our   practices be used?  #ABAchat
BarefootBehvior @behaviorbabe Great example of building on what student CAN do, shaping   into an employability skill! #ABAchat
behaviorbabe A5: Social validity #transition #planforfuture …this is a socially   significant area where change is needed #behavioranalysis #ABAChat
behaviorbabe A5: Focus on student strengths, help program for sR+ likely to be found   in natural environment, measure change #ABAChat #pivotalbehaviors
zachikkanda So grateful that this discussion is going on! Such an important issue.   You are all awesome. Unfortunately, have to bid adieu. #Work #ABAchat
behaviouratplay A5: Task analysis and chaining of specific work skills; use of BST model   for soft skills needed on the job, post-secondary #ABAchat
behaviorbabe @behaviorbabe @behaviouratplay – what are the laws surrounding   #transition planning in #Canada? #behavior #ABAChat
NataliJewel @zachikkanda Contact local colleges, churches, synagogues, &   organizations. Start w/ a small task with built in reinforcement. #ABAChat
behaviorbabe Sorry I could only stop in for a few –down to the wire w/final   dissertation revisions #behavioranalysis #funNEVERstops #ABAChat Good night!
behaviouratplay A5: Interesting caveat on person-centered planning. Still a need for   stimulus preference Ax in environment person transitioning to  #ABAchat
behaviouratplay Q6: Work placements: what are people’s thoughts on paychecks, earning a   livable wage? Do you advocate for $$ being paid out? #ABAchat
jimmyJJbond Join the convo! RT @behaviouratplay: Q5: What role does #ABA have in   transition planning. How can our practices be used?  #ABAchat
behaviouratplay Thanks for joining in @zachikkanda and @behaviorbabe.  Agreed – an important discussion.  Small changes now…  #ABAchat
jimmyJJbond @behaviouratplay I’m curious, what would be the alternative? #ABAchat
behaviouratplay A5: My thought is that the job experience should be authentic. Person is   contributing to organization’s success; therefore $ earned #ABAchat
behaviouratplay @jimmyJJbond I worry some placements may be “charity case” and   “make work project” therefore no wage to be offered. #ABAchat
jimmyJJbond @behaviouratplay I absolutely agree! Otherwise, in my opinion, it’s   basically free labor. We don’t want to go down that road. #ABAchat
behaviouratplay @jimmyJJbond But since the goal might be to have place to gain   experience, maybe take it w/o expectation to get paid. #ABAchat
BarefootBehvior A6: If worker not compensated for work done then they’re being taken   advantage of, and shame on us for not advocating! #ABAchat
jimmyJJbond @behaviouratplay ah, I see your point. I didn’t think about that aspect   #ABAchat
BarefootBehvior A6: although I’ve seen programs where student gets school credits for   learning work skills on site, internship of sorts. #ABAchat
behaviouratplay @BarefootBehvior Agreed. Much more work on our part to make these   opportunities available with compensation built in. #ABAchat
jimmyJJbond @BarefootBehvior I’m with you on that. My thoughts exactly. I think that   opens the door to an entirely different set of problems #ABAchat
NataliJewel @behaviouratplay I agree! Client should be paid for their work like   anyone else. Do you have client and employer sign a contract? #ABAChat
BarefootBehvior A6: student then has potential for long term hire in which monetary   compensation is given. #ABAchat
jimmyJJbond @behaviouratplay maybe it doesn’t have to be money, but some form of   payment should be given. School credit, or something maybe. #ABAchat
behaviouratplay @NataliJewel Hope we get to that point. Not sure what our Work Experience   placements arrange since its education-system based. #ABAchat
behaviouratplay Okay #behaviouranalysis tweeps!    I’ve been on Twitter all evening.    Time for a rest.  Thanks for the   chat this evening!   #ABAchat
behaviouratplay If you’re just joining the discussion, please  feel free to weigh in a response with   hashtag  #ABAchat
behaviouratplay Our next #ABAchat is on Monday. @JHyfler is hosting a discussion on use   of praise – what does the research say? #ABAchat
BarefootBehvior @NataliJewel Our transition dept. has been using employer/employee   contracts this year, establish all parameters before start. #ABAchat
jimmyJJbond RT @behaviouratplay: Our next #ABAchat is on Monday. @JHyfler is hosting   a discussion on use of praise – what does the research say? #ABAchat
behaviouratplay Transition Planning Resource Guide for identified students in Ontario:   http://t.co/8jPexAdR  #ABAchat #Sped
NataliJewel @BarefootBehvior Exactly! That’s great! #ABAChat
globalautism Sorry we missed you at #ABAchat tonight. Had a Supervision Q&A   call at the same time!  #poorplanning   #nexttime #greattopic Thank you!
behaviorbabe @globalautism You can contribute after the fact by replying to Q’s with   your A’s and using (hashtag ABAChat) #ABAChat #behavioranalysis
puzzlingalong @zachikkanda @BarefootBehvior    #abachat our community open to it! just takes a few contacts w/civic   assoc, like-minded leaders/biz owners
puzzlingalong @zachikkanda @BarefootBehvior    #abachat exactly our spec ed lead, pupil pers director attended civic   assoc meeting & recd numerous ops
puzzlingalong @behaviouratplay #abachat maybe in high school years mostly   internship/occ skills. then after transition and aging out, paid jobs?!
puzzlingalong @behaviouratplay #abachat A5 goals of increasing time on task, checking   schedule, & completing tasks independently shaped with ABA
puzzlingalong @zachikkanda #abachat our #kpsd district started w/in house historical   museum then went out to diner, hardware store in our town.
puzzlingalong @behaviouratplay A3 #abachat time on task w/o prompts, checking schedule,   following schedule independently, completing work tasks indep
puzzlingalong @behaviouratplay @srmccoy A1 #abachat #jobcoach is key and opportunities   in community for lifeskills students before they age out.
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